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		<title>By: Talon</title>
		<link>http://miss-britt.com/2008/11/how-can-we-help-gay-rights/comment-page-2/#comment-37288</link>
		<dc:creator>Talon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Debra:  And you&#039;ve proved my point admirably.

Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Debra:  And you&#8217;ve proved my point admirably.</p>
<p>Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Debra</title>
		<link>http://miss-britt.com/2008/11/how-can-we-help-gay-rights/comment-page-2/#comment-37286</link>
		<dc:creator>Debra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Talon:

You have actually made my point! Marriage does pre-dates Christianity because Almighty God was the one who instituted this sacred and holy institution that we call marriage. 

HE made it abundantly clear that marriage was/is a &quot;Covenant&quot; ( not a contract) between one man and one woman for life! Even Elton John recently stated that his relationship is not a marriage, but a &quot;Civil Union&quot;.

He also strongly suggested that the gay community stop trying to shove marriage down the throat of society as it will never work! You find his comments in the USA TODAY Paper on last week.

The Lord Jesus affirmed the &quot;Male -Female&quot; relationship in marriage when He spoke these words from the gospel of Matthew:

&quot;Have you not read (He&#039;s quoting the O.T.) that He who made them at the beginning made them Male and Female, and said, For this reason a &quot;Man&quot; shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his &quot;Wife&quot; (not husband), and the &quot;Two&quot; shall become &quot;One&quot; Flesh?

So then they are no longer two but one flesh. Therefore what &quot;God&quot; has &quot;Joined Together&quot;, let not &quot;Man&quot; separate.&quot; (Matthew 19:4-6)

There is no wiggle room for the gay community to dismiss what our Lord clearly is saying! So, if you want to know what Jesus would do, He would embrace marriage as God intended, between one man and one woman for life! HE would then condemn the practice of the &quot;Abomination&quot; of Sodomy which God says He hates! Now, deal with that TRuth!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talon:</p>
<p>You have actually made my point! Marriage does pre-dates Christianity because Almighty God was the one who instituted this sacred and holy institution that we call marriage. </p>
<p>HE made it abundantly clear that marriage was/is a &#8220;Covenant&#8221; ( not a contract) between one man and one woman for life! Even Elton John recently stated that his relationship is not a marriage, but a &#8220;Civil Union&#8221;.</p>
<p>He also strongly suggested that the gay community stop trying to shove marriage down the throat of society as it will never work! You find his comments in the USA TODAY Paper on last week.</p>
<p>The Lord Jesus affirmed the &#8220;Male -Female&#8221; relationship in marriage when He spoke these words from the gospel of Matthew:</p>
<p>&#8220;Have you not read (He&#8217;s quoting the O.T.) that He who made them at the beginning made them Male and Female, and said, For this reason a &#8220;Man&#8221; shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his &#8220;Wife&#8221; (not husband), and the &#8220;Two&#8221; shall become &#8220;One&#8221; Flesh?</p>
<p>So then they are no longer two but one flesh. Therefore what &#8220;God&#8221; has &#8220;Joined Together&#8221;, let not &#8220;Man&#8221; separate.&#8221; (Matthew 19:4-6)</p>
<p>There is no wiggle room for the gay community to dismiss what our Lord clearly is saying! So, if you want to know what Jesus would do, He would embrace marriage as God intended, between one man and one woman for life! HE would then condemn the practice of the &#8220;Abomination&#8221; of Sodomy which God says He hates! Now, deal with that TRuth!</p>
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		<title>By: Faiqa</title>
		<link>http://miss-britt.com/2008/11/how-can-we-help-gay-rights/comment-page-2/#comment-37236</link>
		<dc:creator>Faiqa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 21:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot; If you are not a Christian, then your World View comes from Secular Humanism..&quot;  

No, really, &lt;i&gt;please&lt;/i&gt; continue to ramble and don&#039;t let the facts discourage you from  discounting nearly 3/4 of the world&#039;s theologies, and the nearly 15 million citizens of the United States who practice organized religions outside of (and mostly older than) Christianity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; If you are not a Christian, then your World View comes from Secular Humanism..&#8221;  </p>
<p>No, really, <i>please</i> continue to ramble and don&#8217;t let the facts discourage you from  discounting nearly 3/4 of the world&#8217;s theologies, and the nearly 15 million citizens of the United States who practice organized religions outside of (and mostly older than) Christianity.</p>
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		<title>By: Talon</title>
		<link>http://miss-britt.com/2008/11/how-can-we-help-gay-rights/comment-page-2/#comment-37233</link>
		<dc:creator>Talon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 20:54:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*snorts*

First, educate yourself on the concept of &quot;separation of church and state.&quot;

And while you&#039;re at it, remind yourself that not everyone on this planet...hell, not even the majority of people on this planet are christian and believe in &quot;your&quot; god.


While you&#039;re at it, also check out &quot;prohibition&quot; and &quot;slavery&quot;.  

If you consider yourself an intelligent person, I won&#039;t try to dissuade you from your delusion.  It is futile to argue with the incompetent and mentally deficient, especially about their tightly held mythologies.


If marriage was instituted by god in the garden of eden...which...is just a really funny thing to hear from a supposedly sane, intelligent adult, then tell me why marriage pre-dates christanity?

Oh wait.  You can&#039;t.  You probably believe that NOTHING predates christianity, because nothing can predate god who created everything...*yawn*.

Finally, my views are my own, not Miss Britt&#039;s.  Just as your views are welcome to be aired here, so are mine, whether they jive with her personal convictions or not.


P.S. I love how you automatically dismiss any thought of any other religions that I might adhere to if I am not christian and jump right to secular humanism.

Very telling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*snorts*</p>
<p>First, educate yourself on the concept of &#8220;separation of church and state.&#8221;</p>
<p>And while you&#8217;re at it, remind yourself that not everyone on this planet&#8230;hell, not even the majority of people on this planet are christian and believe in &#8220;your&#8221; god.</p>
<p>While you&#8217;re at it, also check out &#8220;prohibition&#8221; and &#8220;slavery&#8221;.  </p>
<p>If you consider yourself an intelligent person, I won&#8217;t try to dissuade you from your delusion.  It is futile to argue with the incompetent and mentally deficient, especially about their tightly held mythologies.</p>
<p>If marriage was instituted by god in the garden of eden&#8230;which&#8230;is just a really funny thing to hear from a supposedly sane, intelligent adult, then tell me why marriage pre-dates christanity?</p>
<p>Oh wait.  You can&#8217;t.  You probably believe that NOTHING predates christianity, because nothing can predate god who created everything&#8230;*yawn*.</p>
<p>Finally, my views are my own, not Miss Britt&#8217;s.  Just as your views are welcome to be aired here, so are mine, whether they jive with her personal convictions or not.</p>
<p>P.S. I love how you automatically dismiss any thought of any other religions that I might adhere to if I am not christian and jump right to secular humanism.</p>
<p>Very telling.</p>
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		<title>By: Miss Britt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miss Britt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 20:39:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe that the RELIGIOUS institution of marriage is just that.

I also believe we let atheists get married in courthouses with absolutely no mention of God.  All the time.  That&#039;s a CIVIL contract.

You know.  Unto Caesar and all that...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe that the RELIGIOUS institution of marriage is just that.</p>
<p>I also believe we let atheists get married in courthouses with absolutely no mention of God.  All the time.  That&#8217;s a CIVIL contract.</p>
<p>You know.  Unto Caesar and all that&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Debra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Debra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 20:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Talon:

I am always amazed when dumb people try to sound intelligent. First, this is a Democracy, which means the people determines the direction of the Country. We, the people, determined the Constitution on the federal level and on the State level.

Concerning Prop 8 &amp; Prop 2, the people of those respective States determined that they did not want gay marriage, pure and simple!

It was a &quot;fair and free&quot; election, with both sides having the freedom to voice their &quot;God-given&quot; right of free speech and thought. Again, the people spoke loud and clear: &quot;WE Do Not Want Gay Marriage!&quot;

Now, deal with it. Accept it. For the record, marriage was instituted by Almighty God Himself in the Garden of Eden, not the State. Government was instituted by Almighty God as an expression of His Soverein Rule in the Universe. If you need help with that one, try reading Romans 13, and there you will clearly see my point.

Yes, it is our God-given convictions that determine our world view. I make decisions based on my Judeo-Christian Wolrd View, not by my fellow man. If you are not a Christian, then your World View comes from Secular Humanism! Every person has a world view, whether religiously based or not!

Therefore, you must go back and do some studying before trying to deal with an intelligent person! Have a great day!

Debra

PS. As a &quot;professing&quot; Christian, Miss Britt would believe that marriage is God&#039;s idea, and not man&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talon:</p>
<p>I am always amazed when dumb people try to sound intelligent. First, this is a Democracy, which means the people determines the direction of the Country. We, the people, determined the Constitution on the federal level and on the State level.</p>
<p>Concerning Prop 8 &amp; Prop 2, the people of those respective States determined that they did not want gay marriage, pure and simple!</p>
<p>It was a &#8220;fair and free&#8221; election, with both sides having the freedom to voice their &#8220;God-given&#8221; right of free speech and thought. Again, the people spoke loud and clear: &#8220;WE Do Not Want Gay Marriage!&#8221;</p>
<p>Now, deal with it. Accept it. For the record, marriage was instituted by Almighty God Himself in the Garden of Eden, not the State. Government was instituted by Almighty God as an expression of His Soverein Rule in the Universe. If you need help with that one, try reading Romans 13, and there you will clearly see my point.</p>
<p>Yes, it is our God-given convictions that determine our world view. I make decisions based on my Judeo-Christian Wolrd View, not by my fellow man. If you are not a Christian, then your World View comes from Secular Humanism! Every person has a world view, whether religiously based or not!</p>
<p>Therefore, you must go back and do some studying before trying to deal with an intelligent person! Have a great day!</p>
<p>Debra</p>
<p>PS. As a &#8220;professing&#8221; Christian, Miss Britt would believe that marriage is God&#8217;s idea, and not man&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Talon</title>
		<link>http://miss-britt.com/2008/11/how-can-we-help-gay-rights/comment-page-2/#comment-37180</link>
		<dc:creator>Talon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 04:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Debra...dear...we do not live in a theoacracy.  The founding fathers were pretty clear on that.

There is no such thing as a god given conviction that a marriage is between one man and one woman for life.

If there was, there would be no such thing as divorce in marriages in a church.

Sorry.  Better brush up a bit on your history, your theology and what intolerant means.

WE the people declared that all men are created equal. ALL MEN.  ALL MANKIND.  Not just the straight ones.  You don&#039;t get to live in a nation that is founded on freedom and equality and then tell a certain group of people,  &quot;Oh everyone is equal.  But not you.  God hates you faggots.&quot;

And finally...only very recently has marriage been a religious institution.  Frankly gay marriage is a much nicer prospect than the origin of the &quot;one man and one woman&quot; arrangement.  Marriage was about man owning property.  The woman.

Get over yourself.  Please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Debra&#8230;dear&#8230;we do not live in a theoacracy.  The founding fathers were pretty clear on that.</p>
<p>There is no such thing as a god given conviction that a marriage is between one man and one woman for life.</p>
<p>If there was, there would be no such thing as divorce in marriages in a church.</p>
<p>Sorry.  Better brush up a bit on your history, your theology and what intolerant means.</p>
<p>WE the people declared that all men are created equal. ALL MEN.  ALL MANKIND.  Not just the straight ones.  You don&#8217;t get to live in a nation that is founded on freedom and equality and then tell a certain group of people,  &#8220;Oh everyone is equal.  But not you.  God hates you faggots.&#8221;</p>
<p>And finally&#8230;only very recently has marriage been a religious institution.  Frankly gay marriage is a much nicer prospect than the origin of the &#8220;one man and one woman&#8221; arrangement.  Marriage was about man owning property.  The woman.</p>
<p>Get over yourself.  Please.</p>
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		<title>By: Debra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Debra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 03:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am sooooooglaaaaaaad that Prop 2 and prop 8 and Arizona (whatever prop it was) passed with flying colors! &quot;WE&quot;, the people, do not want gay marriage in America! Pure and simple. that&#039;s not hate, that&#039;s not being intolerant, it is simply our God-given convictions that marriage is between one man and one woman for life!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sooooooglaaaaaaad that Prop 2 and prop 8 and Arizona (whatever prop it was) passed with flying colors! &#8220;WE&#8221;, the people, do not want gay marriage in America! Pure and simple. that&#8217;s not hate, that&#8217;s not being intolerant, it is simply our God-given convictions that marriage is between one man and one woman for life!</p>
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		<title>By: equality4all</title>
		<link>http://miss-britt.com/2008/11/how-can-we-help-gay-rights/comment-page-2/#comment-37164</link>
		<dc:creator>equality4all</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 22:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a heterosexual and i am sickened by all of this hate and segregation! i can only wish I will love someone enough to marry them, i find it intolerable for someone to deprive another to marry for any reason! there is absolutely no difference from me or any gay American, we bleed, we feel, we love, we hate, we breathe. when Africans Americans we given their overly due rights, that should have been the end of any discrepancy toward civil rights! 
it is embarrassing that this is even an issue! i recently found out my best friend could not donate blood, why? he has had sexual intercourse with a man and he is also a man! this is appalling! sex with a man or a woman makes you vulnerable to the SAME &quot;high risk behavior&quot;, they test the blood for HIV/AIDS, so why in the world would banning gay men from donating blood be in the least necessary?!?!
America prides itself on &quot;freedom for all&quot; this is utter bull shit! of all Americans had equal rights I this would not be an issue, in 30 years from now, anti-gay rights Americans will be embarrassed, just like the anti-African American rights Americans were!
I only wish their was more that I could do! I am not stopping here though!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a heterosexual and i am sickened by all of this hate and segregation! i can only wish I will love someone enough to marry them, i find it intolerable for someone to deprive another to marry for any reason! there is absolutely no difference from me or any gay American, we bleed, we feel, we love, we hate, we breathe. when Africans Americans we given their overly due rights, that should have been the end of any discrepancy toward civil rights!<br />
it is embarrassing that this is even an issue! i recently found out my best friend could not donate blood, why? he has had sexual intercourse with a man and he is also a man! this is appalling! sex with a man or a woman makes you vulnerable to the SAME &#8220;high risk behavior&#8221;, they test the blood for HIV/AIDS, so why in the world would banning gay men from donating blood be in the least necessary?!?!<br />
America prides itself on &#8220;freedom for all&#8221; this is utter bull <acronym title="yes, I swear alot">shit</acronym>! of all Americans had equal rights I this would not be an issue, in 30 years from now, anti-gay rights Americans will be embarrassed, just like the anti-African American rights Americans were!<br />
I only wish their was more that I could do! I am not stopping here though!</p>
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		<title>By: martymankins</title>
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		<dc:creator>martymankins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 03:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Avitable stated a fact that none of these supporters against same-sex marriage mention and that&#039;s how affected the rights of un-married heterosexual couples are when a state amends their constitution.  Not all amendments fall under this, but Utah and many other states do when they include &quot;and any other legal means that extends rights&quot;.  My now-wife and I actually had legal documents drawn up right after that amendment got put into place here in Utah to ensure that if something were to happen to either of us, the other would have a legal power of attorney to make legal decisions.  Now that we are married, we are covered, but at the time, we were very content to just live together, but didn&#039;t want any of the legal discrimination to affect our lives.  We also knew an elderly couple that were not married (for various benefit reasons) that did the same thing.

Marriage is civil and should be extended to every tax-paying adult.  Any removal of rights, when put to the vote of the people, is wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><acronym title="i love this sarcastic SOB">Avitable</acronym> stated a fact that none of these supporters against same-sex marriage mention and that&#8217;s how affected the rights of un-married heterosexual couples are when a state amends their constitution.  Not all amendments fall under this, but Utah and many other states do when they include &#8220;and any other legal means that extends rights&#8221;.  My now-wife and I actually had legal documents drawn up right after that amendment got put into place here in Utah to ensure that if something were to happen to either of us, the other would have a legal power of attorney to make legal decisions.  Now that we are married, we are covered, but at the time, we were very content to just live together, but didn&#8217;t want any of the legal discrimination to affect our lives.  We also knew an elderly couple that were not married (for various benefit reasons) that did the same thing.</p>
<p>Marriage is civil and should be extended to every tax-paying adult.  Any removal of rights, when put to the vote of the people, is wrong.</p>
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