In Defense of Sex Offenders

by Miss Britt on April 3, 2008

I’m thinking of dropping out of my Mommy group because of their reaction to sex offenders.

I received an email via the group’s mailing list last week containing a link to a “new” tracking system for sex offenders living in the State of Florida. Basically, you go to the web page, type in your address, and panic ensues as you count up all the “perverts” who live within a 15 mile radius of you.

The email responses started immediately.

“OMG, there is one on my street!”

The hysteria was hard to miss as many of these women imagined rapists and child molesters prowling the playgrounds in their neighborhoods.

In an effort to calm what I considered unnecessary panic, I responded to the group and assured them that “not everyone listed on the sex offender registry is a baby raper. People have to register as a sex offender if they get caught peeing outside for Pete’s sake.” I encouraged them to do some digging before they egged the neighbor’s house.

I didn’t receive a single response to my email. Instead, I watched as emails littered with fear and lynching flew back and forth across the Internet.

“They should all be stuck on an island somewhere!”

“I can’t believe my neighbor! The world isn’t safe!”

“Screw the island, they should all be castrated!”

The last one I read warned that this was exactly why “you can’t ever let your kids out of your sight”.

*sigh* I shook my head and closed the thread in my inbox. I was frustrated that no one seemed interested in a voice of reason. I was disheartened to see how easy it was for the mob mentality to set in. I imagined rallies and marches complete with pitch forks and torches. And baby strollers.

And something about that didn’t sit well with me.

It’s not that I’m pro sex offender.

God knows, I would kill any son of a bitch who ever laid a hand on my child. The innocence of children should be protected, and the idea that anyone would violate that makes me want to puke. Ugh. I get nauseous just writing those words.

But…

I’m informed enough to know that the sex offender registry is not an accurate list of people who would do harm to your children. In fact, it’s so woefully inaccurate that it’s useless.

I know that because of the way laws are written, a person who is given a ticket at 21 for stopping to urinate on the sidewalk on their walk home from the bars… may be registered as a sex offender.

A 17 year old boy who has sex with his 14 year old girlfriend and is discovered by his girlfriend’s pissed off father… is registered as a sex offender. For life. Even if he grows up and marries that girl and has children with them.

A girl who had oral sex at 15 with a 17 year old is required to register as a sex offender… and 11 years later can be evicted from her home because she’s too close to a day care center.

And these people are shunned from society for the rest of their lives. They have difficulty finding jobs and it’s becoming increasingly impossible for them to find places to live. And for what? Because they are painted with the same brush as someone who willfully molests a child?

That’s ludicrous. And it’s not fair. It’s not right. It’s not OK to run around slandering people who are only guilty of committing actions that damn near all of us have done ourselves.

Furthermore, I refuse to live in fear.

I can’t stand fear mongering. I hate the entire Fear Of The Big Bad World mentality. That kind of thinking is not only limiting, but dangerous. It is the mentality that leads to witch hunts and concentration camps and unclassified wars.

I understand that there are things and people out there who could harm me and/or my children. Of course, I do. I’m not a naive Pollyanna.

But I also believe, I know, that there is a great big wonderful world out there that you will completely miss if you are constantly on the look out for the boogie man.

There is a balance between tip toeing blindly through the tulips and hiding out in a bunker because OMG THERE ARE SICKOS OUT THERE! There are precautions you can take. There is value in being aware of your surroundings.

And, most importantly, there is value in educating yourself. The only real way to protect yourself from the dangers that may lurk is to be informed, so that you can take appropriate precautions. And then, you know what? Shit can still happen.

It’s scary to think that no matter what we do, we can still have bad things happen to us. Or worse, to our children. But it’s wishful thinking at best to imagine that we can fully eliminate all of the Bad in life by becoming vigilantes.

I can’t live in fear. I can’t nod my head over punch and pretend that I agree with the idea that our kids have to be sheltered from the Big Bad World. I can’t allow a virtual List of Perverts to easily make my decisions for me about who should be feared and who can be trusted.

And I can’t in good conscience sweep a bunch of relatively innocent people under the same rug as vile, predatory criminals. Or sit around a park with a smile on my face, acting like I’m OK with it.

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174 Comments so far

  1. avitable April 2, 2008 11:48 pm

    I typed my address into that sex offender finder to see if there were any living around here, and all it said was “Look in a mirror”.

  2. Karl April 3, 2008 12:17 am

    Yeah, I just saw a special on this on Dateline or some other magazine show. Amazing how many people are on the list that don’t belong there.

    Karl’s last blog post..Lots of Stuff to Mention

  3. Sleeping Mommy April 3, 2008 12:17 am

    My husband and I have talked about this too. It’s shocking what can get you listed as a sex offender. I think it’s been taken WAY too far. But at the same time, we look at those websites to see how close they are too.

    We talk about how things are so different from when we were kids and we could run around the neighborhood at the age of 3 and 4 years old. Our kids? Not allowed outside without us. Well…at least the 3 and 5 year old. We trust our 6.5 year old will stay close to the house and knows not to leave the yard and to come in if someone approaches him.

    It’s a scarey world. We have to find a balance because we can’t shelter our children from everything. It’s not fair to them–how will they grow in any real way?

    Sleeping Mommy’s last blog post..I love a treasure hunt

  4. Jay April 3, 2008 12:31 am

    Prosecutor’s use the sex offender registry as a weapon against people. Mostly young people. The prosecutor gets them to agree to register as a sex offender for some really minor offense and they won’t have to go to jail. They think they’re getting a good deal, but they don’t realize that the prosecution probably has no evidence or it was obtained illegally so they’re just getting screwed. Happens all the time.

    Jay’s last blog post..An Embarrassment of Riches …

  5. Traci (Mommy's Group April 3, 2008 12:43 am

    Ok I have to comment on this. Britt we never received the email you said you sent. I never got an email from you and I just looked in the mailing list archives and it doesn’t show that you replied back. Something must of happened because it never went through to us. Just wanted to clear that up in our defense. This isn’t a safe world we live in and I do believe that you really need to watch your kids because you never know who you can trust. You laugh at me for locking my doors but before you moved here there was some sicko in Deltona who shot a crap load of his so called friends over some video game console. I choose not to watch the news because there is too much bad shit going on around us and personally I’d rather not know otherwise I’d be paranoid and never want to leave the house. Ok thats my two cents lol.

  6. Honeybell April 3, 2008 12:45 am

    Not only can “un-sexoffenderish” behavior get you on the list, but those are only the ones who got caught. My neighborhood isn’t Mayberry Lane simply because no one on my street has been busted. People are still looking behind bushes and in dark alleys for the nasty guy in the overcoat. Sadly, 9 times out of 10 the person that hurts kids is someone the parent knows and trusts.

    You are so right. You do what you can, teach your children what’s right and what’s not. Then live your life. I’m sorry you might lose your mommy group over it, but I think its understandable to drop it if that’s what you choose to do.

    Honeybell’s last blog post..Celebrities Who Could Be My Baby Daddy

  7. Erin April 3, 2008 1:56 am

    The Sex Offender Registry is totally the new No Fly List.

    And other snarky comments so numerous I might just have to write my own blog post so as not to take up all the space in your comments!

    Erin’s last blog post..Wednesday Bloglets

  8. TSM April 3, 2008 3:19 am

    I totally heart you.

    I have recently found myself in the midst of that type of fear mongering, wondering how a free-thinking individual such as myself ended up in a group of lemmings, ready to get their torches and pitchforks and chase down Timmy Johnson on the corner because his 14 yr old girlfriend blew him last year and daddy found out. Let’s just say that my opinion is even less popular than yours.

    I am ridiculously pleased that I found your blog. Fan for life…TSM

  9. Miss Britt April 3, 2008 6:09 am

    avitable: man, I didn’t see THAT response coming!

    Karl: yeah, crazy. And makes it so you can’t trust the info at all. Not to mention what it does to those people who don’t belong on there.

    Sleeping Mommy: oh, I looked too. And I pulled up the faces of anyone in my area. And I read the notes as best I could and made a mental note to myself to stay aware - you know?

    Jay: that’s just sick.

    Traci (Mommy’s Group): I understand how you feel about it Traci. I don’t think it’s a “safe” world either, and I’m fully aware of the story you’re talking about. But I’m also not going to keep my kids - or myself - on lock down to keep me “safe”. What’s the point of living if it’s like that?

    Honeybell: ohhhh, I’m pretty sure after this post I’m out regardless. LOL

    And, yeah, that’s the other thing - there are people NOT on any list that you have to teach your kids to be aware.

    Erin: that’s a good analogy.

    TSM: glad to have you hear.

    Wanna join a Mommy group with me? :wink:

  10. Miss Britt April 3, 2008 6:09 am

    HERE! HERE! not “hear”. Shit.

  11. Dawn @ Coming to a Nursery Near You April 3, 2008 6:30 am

    I agree with you on the whole education thing. Our state lists the name, address and picture of the sex offenders here - but it also lists what they were convicted of. So when I see this: 632-A:3,II Felonious Sexual Assault(Victim 13 or older & under 16 & age diff more than 3 years) I KNOW it’s not because he & his gf were caught. I KNOW he’s been up to no good. This one: 632-A:2, I Aggravated Felonious Sexual Assault (Victim under 13 y.o.) - yeah, no good. Pieces of shit - that’s what they are.

    However - a friend of mine.. her husband had to register because he called someone a name in an argument - and she filed a report.

    So I totally get where you are with this. EDUCATION. I know where these guys live - I know what they look like - and so does my son.

    Dawn @ Coming to a Nursery Near You’s last blog post..reality check

  12. Miss Ann Thrope, or Someone Else April 3, 2008 6:41 am

    Britt, this is SUCH a good post. So, good, in fact, that I’m gonna link to it*, because I agree with you 100%.

    (oh, like THAT is such a big deal, that all 7 of my readers will get such a treat. But HEY! My heart is in the right place, right?)

    Miss Ann Thrope, or Someone Else’s last blog post..Not so good at sick, thank you very much…

  13. Kristin April 3, 2008 7:23 am

    I agree 100%! I personally know of a guy here that is labeled a sex offender for being at a club at 18 and meeting a girl who he ended up having a relationship with. Her ID was her pic and it said she was 18. When her mom found out about him she went straight to the cops because she was really only 17!

    You can’t close yourself off to the outside world because it’s “not safe”. If you are going to go about life like that, you may as well never step foot out of your house!

  14. Terri April 3, 2008 7:54 am

    Ok… Sorry Britt… but having some involvement with probation and sex offenders in Iowa… you are somewhat misinformed on what puts someone on the registry. First of all just being convicted of that crime does not automatically end you up on the registry!!!! Second of all especially in the case of person’s under the age of 18… if they do any type of treatement it can be recommended that they do not go on the registry.

    In regards to an indecent exposure charge in Iowa… just urinating is not a sex offense you have to arouse another person or have a person state that they were offended by the act.

    In Iowa the age of consent for a sex offense is 14 years of age and for it to be a sex act the person must be a 4 or more years older than the other person. In the case of a 15 year old they must also be 4 or more years difference to be a sex act. At the age of 16 the can consent to sex with anyone.

    Sorry…I Love your blog… but let’s be informed!!!!

  15. avitable April 3, 2008 8:02 am

    Umm, Terri, Britt lives in Florida. And clearly she was talking about it on a country-wide level, where many states slap sex offender status on many innocuous crimes.

  16. avitable April 3, 2008 8:04 am

    Oh, and in Iowa, if they meet the requirements to be registered in their home state and then move to Iowa, they’re required to register, as well. Which means that someone who had to register for public urination in another state would be a sex offender in Iowa, too.

  17. Mr. Fabulous April 3, 2008 8:18 am

    I can’t pee outside anymore? :cry:
    Mr. Fabulous’s last blog post..Shhhhh…

  18. debkitty April 3, 2008 8:38 am

    I know you are right. But looking at that list can give you an idea that hey maybe letting my kid play at that house isn’t such a good idea without further investigation. Don’t ya think?

    debkitty’s last blog post..Just Another Day!

  19. sam April 3, 2008 8:41 am

    Great post Britt, as always.

    Canada’s sex offender list is not publicly available like it is in the states (at least I haven’t found it) and it’s so far gone that it’s practically a joke.

    But I do agree with you that it’s completely unfair to paint all with the same brush. It’s stupid.

    From an outsiders prospective (being Canadian) the US seems to thrive on fear mongering as a way of life - straight from the top down. There is nothing that is safe, everything is evil and you. will. be. harmed. no matter what! It’s really really sad.

    Saying that, it’s really no different here, but it’s a MUCH more laid back mongering and not so in your face.

    I’m just rambling now.

    You did the right thing. I’m glad you took the stance you did!

    sam’s last blog post..When Parenting Breaks Your Heart

  20. turnbaby April 3, 2008 8:45 am

    LMAO@ Fabby–aparently it’s okay just don’t arouse anybody ;-)

    This is an awesome post Britt.

    And I do have to say one thing–the world was not that much safer ‘back then’

    It’s that we know about more shit happening in more places because it’s splashed 24/7 for all to see

    Trust me—my first look at an aroused cock was being called over to a car from the playground when I was in elementary school. Guess there really is something about those Catholic girl school uniforms cause wow was it aroused.

    I can’t abide fear mongering lazy brained lemming behavior.

    turnbaby’s last blog post..Half Nekkid Thursday Edition No. 3

  21. Britt's Mom April 3, 2008 8:51 am

    You know, I was thinking about Sam’s comment that the US seems to thrive on fear mongering, from the top down. I give you - the Patriot Act!! Ooooh oooh we don’t want another World Trade Center so let’s spy on anyone, like me, who dares to criticize the application of said Act.

    And about that whole “if anyone reports being offended” by me peeing on the sidewalk?

    I’m pretty sure the homeowner whose tree I leaned against - because that’s how I was taught to pee on the way home from a bar, thank you very much to my old neightbor Karen - would be offended if he/she saw me. Unless they had a sense of humor, in which case they might be “aroused” because, as we all know, funny is hot.

    I would protect my grandkids with my life - but I absolutely hate cubby holing people, and labeling. No label is big enough - we have to use our brains!

    Britt’s Mom’s last blog post..Be Yourself, or Take Your Cheap Ass Home

  22. Just Me April 3, 2008 9:01 am

    Hey, this is a great post and I support it 100%. I would like to give you an example of my life….

    I just moved into my house (again after winning it in the big D) and of course I have two kids….9 and 3. There is a sex offender that lives two houses down from me. Now I have no fear to say what is on my mind. I couldn’t find any info on this guy so I marched me and my two kids to his house. I came right out and told him that his name was on the list blah blah blah and I wanted to know what for. And he said child molestation. HELLO RED FLAG! But then I talked to him…and apparently it was a big deal because he was ACCUSED of it (I read all his court papers)….and they convicted him and now he is a sex offender. But had I not made myself and children aware, I would have not let them down that end of the street.

    Needless to say, as you said…..look into before you go getting all scared.

    I did tell him as well, in a nice friendly manner that if I ever saw him touching my kids, even a handshake…I would hurt him. And he told me I had no problems…cause he saw the red in my eyes…and was a little scared :evil:

  23. Traci (Mommy's Group) April 3, 2008 9:04 am

    I also don’t want to live in fear so I don’t watch the news. There were only 5 Mom’s that made any kind of comment towards that thread out of 20 something woman so you can’t make us out like we are a bunch of woman that would castrate everyone. A few of the woman in our group are very protective over there children so they will feel a certain way about this subject.

  24. Miss Britt April 3, 2008 9:15 am

    Dawn: ooh - I should have you look at our law so you can tell me which number means what. I was having a hard time interpreting it myself.

    Miss Ann: I :heartbeat: your link love just as much as anyone else’s!

    Kristin: gosh, that’s crazy. I hate to think how many of my old boyfriends I could have gotten in trouble!

    I mean, you know, MORE trouble.

    Terri: I don’t think someone saying “I’m offended” makes the urination in public thing any more of a “dangerous” offense.

    But I appreciate your input!

    Mr. Fabulous: well, you just can’t arouse anyone by it!

    debkitty: I 150% agree with THAT. I looked at the list. I made mental note of anyone who was close to me. And I damn well want to find out more about what their offenses could be. I do think it’s a good starting tool. I just don’t think it can be taken at face value.

    sam: yeah, it makes me sad to think we’re getting a reputation of being fear mongers.

    turnbaby: yeah, I think people forget bad things happened “back then” - it just didn’t make the news.

    Britt’s Mom: I love you. And I love that you raised us without the liberal use of labels.

    Just Me: wow, good for you!

    Traci (Mommy’s Group): I don’t think there is anyone on this planet more protective of their children than I am.

    I like to think most mothers are protective of their kids.

    We just go about it differently.

  25. This Mom April 3, 2008 9:34 am

    Britt - this is a touchy subject for a lot of people. I, of course, DO live in Iowa, and I’ve looked through the sex offender registry, and I’m shocked at the things this bass-ackwards state puts people on the registry for.

    There’s a guy in the area, about late 30s, who is part owner of a very popular car dealership here. He is on the registry from a LOOOONG time ago because he had sex with a girl that was underage, and her parents got pissed the f**k off… he’s on there for good now, as far as I know.

    Also another guy that I know through some other people. He was on the registry for the very same reason. And the sad thing, he ended up MARRYING the girl he supposedly “raped” and they have children together. Can you imagine his relationship with his IN-LAWS?

    Anyways… my point is. I agree with you 100%, and I wish I get my point of view across as eloquently as you do. And… I sure hope you don’t lose your Mom’s group for this. They sound like a great group of women, so this one issue shouldn’t be a deal-breaker, right?

    This Mom’s last blog post..Why Buy The Cow When You Can Get the Milk For Free?

  26. Miss Britt April 3, 2008 9:44 am

    This Mom: ironically, I JUST got the email saying I’d been removed from the group. LOL

    That’s OK - I’m sure this is for the best for everyone.

  27. This Mom April 3, 2008 9:54 am

    You know, it surprises me, but then on the other hand, it doesn’t. Having been a member of a hefty amount of mom’s groups over the years, I’ve learned one thing: When they get focused on a subject, it turns into a mob-mentality way of thinking.

    Hell hath no fury like a mom scorned (about a blog post).

    Brush it off… find a new group, girl. Let’s just start our own online Mom’s group… we can have a virtual drink together!

    This Mom’s last blog post..Why Buy The Cow When You Can Get the Milk For Free?

  28. turnbaby April 3, 2008 9:57 am

    how sad and frightened they are

    turnbaby’s last blog post..Half Nekkid Thursday Edition No. 3

  29. Robina April 3, 2008 10:00 am

    Wow! I never knew the facts about the list; i.e, the things you said about the teenagers. That is just SO wrong on so many levels. I know many parents who ALLOW there underage teenagers date guys over the age limit, and those guy can become “sex offenders” if the parents get pissed at him? Maybe the list should just be those who have actually attacked other people.

    And those opinionated people who immediately jump to conclusions? I can see why you would have thoughts of leaving the group.

    Great post.

    Robina’s last blog post..If I only had a brain….

  30. Just Me April 3, 2008 10:05 am

    Can I join the virtual moms group??? Just becoming a single mother (officially, unfortunately the ass I married has not been much of a father since…9 years ago)……I could use some other mom advice :)

    And hell, real drink, virtual drink….whatever…lets pour!! :martini: :martini: :martini:

  31. Hilly April 3, 2008 10:06 am

    I don’t know whether or not I agree with the sex offender part mostly because it’s 7:00 AM and I don’t even know if I agree with this creamer in my coffee or not ;).

    But I will say that dropping you from the mommy group is a little harsh. What happened to the day when we could have differing opinions and debate them without it leading to expulsion or loss of friendship?

    I think they should get more educated about what puts someone on the list just like I should!

    Hilly’s last blog post..Because Life’s Big Clusterfooks Are Not Always About Me….

  32. Renee April 3, 2008 10:20 am

    Let’s see… I love it when shit gets BLOWN wayyy out of proportion!!! 5 out of 23 people had a conversation about “The New Sex Offender List”… Funny enough we never got your email……. Also ironic that you would use MY very own example from my email as an example of how people can get ON the list… (14 yr old dating 17 year old - that was one of my clients)…. So the conversation was not all one dimensional; I too said, that we should look at the reasons “why” people are placed on the list because of the above….

    The conversation was more of a PAY ATTENTION; keep an eye out than anything.. If you read all of the emails you would have noticed the bottom line was “Just because you live in a beautiful, gated, surburban neighborhood doesn’t mean there aren’t sicko’s living there amongst you”… The final outcome was everyone just be AWARE of your surroundings and pay attention when your children are out playing…

    And NO I don’t let my 8 year old daughter run around the neighborhood, without me knowing where she is and who’s house she is in… And meeting the parents before she’s allowed into someone’s home…

    Guess what times are not like they used to be….. Just Monday a little girl 7 was upset with her brother and ran out of the apartment….She was last seen playing outside of her apartment complex.. She ran out around 2pm never seen again until Tuesday evening; she was found DEAD in the neighbor below her apartment’s bathtub! 5 men lived in that apt!

    Do I educate my daughter to scream, kick, run, punch, spit, scratch, bite whatever she needs to do, if someone tries to touch her inappropriately… HELL YEA…. but that doesn’t mean I’m not going to pay close attention to try and avoid anything from happening….. Being aware of her wherabouts when she is playing outside, making her come in before dark and meeting the parents of other kids houses she wants to go and play at…… What happened to better safe than sorry???

    And hell yeah FUCK the Island…Castrate the fuckers who like to RAPE, MOLEST and VIOLATE LITTLE GIRLS AND BOYS!!!

    Renee’s last blog post..Just love those little guys!

  33. NEO April 3, 2008 10:20 am

    “A 17 year old boy who has sex with his 14 year old girlfriend and is discovered by his girlfriend’s pissed off father… is registered as a sex offender. For life. Even if he grows up and marries that girl and has children with them.”

    Almost that exact thing happened to my brother-in-law. I have a friend who works for the sex offender registry who let me in on a little secret about getting off the list. But they moved out of state so that didn’t help him any.
    My former sister is hysterical like that also, she was always telling us how many offenders lived near us. So? I don’t let my children outside without supervision, like she does. I take care of mine, unlike her. So they are safe, because a 12 gage shotgun is very effective at eliminating anyone who would try to hurt my babies.

    NEO’s last blog post..Baby Chicks

  34. Jules April 3, 2008 10:20 am

    Bravo! I could not agree with you more!

    Jules’s last blog post..Yay!

  35. Miss Britt April 3, 2008 10:33 am

    This Mom: I think I’m done with groups for a while.

    turnbaby: apparently.

    Robina: I know, it’s frustrating because it makes it very hard to tell who ARE the dangerous people. And God knows THAT information would be useful.

    Just Me: you’re welcome in any group of mine!

    Hilly: *sigh* yeah, apparently it’s what is best for everyone.

    Renee: talk about things getting blown out of proportion: My sitter quit and I got kicked out of a mom’s group - because I wrote a blog post and had an opinion. And apparently, good news travels fast.

    The post wasn’t meant to be insulting to anyone. I was simply expressing how the entire email thread made me uncomfortable as hell.

    re: using “your” example a) I didn’t know about your client and b) that example, sadly, could be pulled from hundreds of different people’s lives. That was my point.

    NEO: yeah, I’ve known of people in that situation too. It’s rough.

    Jules: thanks. I appreciate it.

  36. Jennifer April 3, 2008 10:35 am

    Wow, Britt. Been sorta following you through Avitable. I like your humor and brashness. Clearly you touched a lot of nerves here, so to speak.

    I like the overall message that living in fear isn’t fully living. One of my favorite books, actually, is called Love Is Letting Go of Fear. Kind of cheesy, but very cool.

    Jennifer’s last blog post..The People

  37. metalmom April 3, 2008 10:37 am

    Those women don’t know what a strong friend they have just ostrasized! Brush it off and move on, I say.

    I think you were very eloquent in this post.Son2 wrote his name on the wall of a school at the age of 12.Schools are goverment property and it is a felon. Nice huh? I always take my understanding of laws with a grain of salt because I know how people are categorized under “umbrella” definitions.

    metalmom’s last blog post..Slow

  38. wafelenbak April 3, 2008 10:41 am

    Thanks for your perspective, it was really informative.
    One of the downsides of the interwebs is how quickly it replicates the mob mentality. So scary. :(

  39. Maman April 3, 2008 10:42 am

    Chicago has had that kind of system since my 13 year old was a toddler… and yes it is disturbing and yes it inspired me to get a 6foot fence (but then anyone walking down the alley could have reached over and grabbed one of my little blonde girlies and keep walking).

    The truth is our kids are much more likely to be endangered by someone we know and trust. Which is the same with virtually all violent crime.

    So, I try to keep the lines of communication open with the girls (a challenge these days) watch their behavior and view no one as above suspicion… WHEE!

    Maman’s last blog post..I am a cruel woman

  40. Teresa (Your Ex-Mom's Grp) April 3, 2008 10:43 am

    Hey Britt. There is nothing I despise more than fake-ass lying people. I AM THE ORIGINAL POSTER of the e-mail you seem to have caused such a stir about. And how funny your “holier than thou” attitude is considering you never bothered to reply to my e-mail (sorry, did I mention I hate cowards too?).
    This was a news story for god’s sake — about how Florida revamped their sex offender list. Get a grip on reality. Yes, I want to know if a registered sex offender lives in my community — is that really fear mongering? It’s called being EDUCATED — try it sometime. Did you even look at the website before you JUDGED? Everybody I clicked on was a middle-aged to older man who SERVED TIME for lewd acts with minors.
    Education is a wonderful asset! For example, most educated people would say calling your husband a dumb-ass is not conducive to a happy healthy marriage or family life. Spending more time on your blog than with your children might also be a “no-no”. You can say what you want about those words — but at least I say it like it is. Or should I say I sent you an e-mail first that you ignored? :) No, I would never stoop that low - I have more class than that.
    Oh, and somebody who always cries “woe is me” — that get’s pretty tiring too. Do you find yourself with many close friends with that attitude? I would guess not. Alas, you were kicked off the Mom’s group — so, so sad. But how many friends did you make in the group, how many play dates did you attend, how many of the wonderful women did you try to befriend? Answer those questions honestly and then still tell yourself that you were kicked out for your opinions.
    I would have more respect for you if you actually joined in on our conversation - but you did not and your blog is based on a complete lie.
    There was no mob mentality. There was no lynching going on. Nobody said we should go after these perverts — it was just a little self-education about our surroundings. You should try a little self-education yourself. You took a harmless conversation between some Moms and blew it up out of proportion just so you had something you deemed “exciting” to blog about. That is pitiful — is there really nothing else you have to write about?
    The worse part about this is you seem so desperate to have a “popular blog” and now you’re getting more responses that you deserve — again, all based on a blog loaded with lies.
    Enjoy the popularity. I wonder what you’re going to do next week when you don’t have your visiting family and Mom’s group to whine about……

  41. themuttprincess April 3, 2008 10:45 am

    I very much understand your point. And agree with most of it.

    I do always want to know though if a convicted rapist, or child molestor lives near me. Just because I can, and I can use that information to stay safe.

    I could care less if a person who, 15 years ago when they were a teenager had sex with a minor. Because, that happens (and HELLO, that shouldn’t haunt you for the rest of your life–as long as it wasn’t rape) I also could care less if a person who urinated in public lives near me.

    Educate yourself as to WHY the people are on the list in the first place, and then you can deal with it appropriately.

    :)

    themuttprincess’s last blog post..Yeah. My head is still clogged. I give up!

  42. Just Me April 3, 2008 10:51 am

    Wow! What the hell kind of “Mom’s Group” were you in? These people seem to be “too good” for reality.

    Teresa, have you ever called your husband anything other than “love, honey, sweetheart”? I mean come on….if your marriage doesn’t have “dumbass” or any other term of endearment like that then I so want to meet you and your hubby…..

    It is clear as piss how much Britt LOVES her family regardless of what she writes here. This to me, is called venting.

    Hell, I have never met Britt personally, but by voicing her OPINION on HER BLOG and telling it like it really is, and expressing her mind and her feelings, I look up to this woman. She is strong and has a GREAT head on her shoulders. She has helped me through so much by expressing HER feelings on HER blog like she does. It makes realize that Im not alone.

    So you may feel like she is not who you thought she is, but maybe you better check yourself. Maybe you aren’t who you think you are….or you are trying to be somebody “better”.

    Britt, you don’t belong in this “mom’s group” anyway, so be glad you aren’t there anymore. You are real….these ladies seem to be pretending to be real.

    And thanks for sharing your blog with me! I love it!!!!

  43. avitable April 3, 2008 10:53 am

    Teresa, are you fucking kidding me? You’re going to start personally attacking someone who was expressing an opinion? Her opinion had nothing to do with anyone being a bad person, just an unwillingness to have some moderation instead of taking an extreme stance on something.

    Yet here you are playing the role of the Mighty Cunt, making personal attacks about someone that you’ve barely met in any way. How fucking dare you.

  44. pnbzmom April 3, 2008 10:56 am

    You seriously got kicked out of the mom group for having your own opinion, that differed from theirs? WOW! I could go on and on about how that is what’s wrong with this world, but I digress. We each have our own opinions and our own paths to go down. We do the best we can with what we know.

    And to Britt’s Mom….you brought up the Patriot Act. Have you read ‘Dude, Where’s My Country?’ I bounced between awe, anger, and fear that our country really is NOT a democracy any longer.

  45. Miss Britt April 3, 2008 10:59 am

    Jennifer: that sounds like a book I would like to read.

    metalmom: my step dad vandalized a mail box or some crazy shit when he was like 16. Felony.

    wafelenbak: I’m glad you appreciated the PERSPECTIVE.

    Maman: yeah, I try to keep the lines of communication open too. I asked Devin the other day “what would you do if a car approached you or slowed down” he looked at me like I was stupid and said “Uh, run home FAST. Duh.” Such is communication with an 8 year old. :rolleyes:

    Teresa: wow - there are so many inaccuracies and misconceptions in this “comment”, I don’t even know where to start.

    I suppose I’ll start with the obvious - is there a time sheet somewhere I’m not aware of where someone has been logging time spent with kids vs. time spent on blog?

    Because THAT is fucking scary.

    Also, regarding my heart’s desires, priorities and aspirations… has someone been reading my diary again? Damn. I need to find a better hiding spot.

    themuttprincess: thank you for getting the POINT. Yes, I want to know if a rapist, child molest, or even just rude asshole has ANY chance of coming into contact with my child.

    Just Me: :heartbeat: :heartbeat: :heartbeat: :heartbeat: :heartbeat: I know I should know better than to let crap bother me, but just the same - I heart the crap out of this comment. Thank you.

    avitable: you loyal little pervert you.

    pbnzmom: well, no. Technically I got kicked out because of this post.

  46. pnbzmom April 3, 2008 11:04 am

    And to Theresa. If you think all of these negative things about Britt and didn’t want her in your “group” um why did you come to HER blog? If I didn’t care for someone I sure as heck wouldn’t be reading-let alone posting on their site. It’s just like TV baby…you don’t like it CHANGE THE CHANNEL!

  47. Marissa April 3, 2008 11:12 am

    Where I’m at, they have a list of offenders and what they were convicted of doing. The peeing on the sidewalk ones earn a laugh from me and my friends (the majority of which have children) but there is no way to keep the ones convicted of child molestation/rape far enough away from the schools to not be a violation of their parole.

    And, sadly, it’s usually the kids that Mommy watches like a hawk that get violated.

    I wonder though, did we just become hyper aware of the ‘bad things’ now, or did we create them with the “oh my god the world is out to kill me” attitude it seems most people have?

    Marissa’s last blog post..I’m such a sucker

  48. Sodapop April 3, 2008 11:16 am

    WOW! What an incredibly touchy group of people we have on the mommy group.

    Britt’s post was not calling anyone name, nor did she personally attack anyone.

    Teresa, step off the high horse, take a look in the mirror and maybe take care of your own shit before trying to pawn it off on Britt. The personal attacks you posted in the comments is horrible and you should be ashamed of yourself. Just my OPINION.

    While I’m not really close with Britt, I do know her dedication to family and friends is 110% if not more.

    Sodapop’s last blog post..Wash, rinse, repeat

  49. Marissa April 3, 2008 11:20 am

    Holy shit, Theresa, maybe you should try coming into reality. Or are you the type of mother who thinks its wonder when her kid writes their name in dog poop? Kids aggravate you, your spouse annoys the hell out of you, and there are days you just want to rip your hair out and eat nothing but peanut butter and chocolate syrup. They call it ‘family’ and not ‘perfection’ for a reason. You learn through hardship.

    Or, if you prefer the Leave It To Beaver type of life, I should warn you, Ward was cheating on June and she was dropping acid in the mornings. God knows the kids were heading straight for detox and the padded room.

    Marissa’s last blog post..I’m such a sucker

  50. Hilly April 3, 2008 11:21 am

    I had a very stupid ex boyfriend that would say “if you don’t like it, leave it”.

    I suggest that if the mommies don’t like this post, they leave it. I’m not trying to be bitchy but damn Gina, why all the hate so early in the morning?

    Hilly’s last blog post..Because Life’s Big Clusterfooks Are Not Always About Me….

  51. Special K April 3, 2008 11:23 am

    Holy Hell!

    Is this a Mommy group or a cult of “Heathers”?
    “Be of like hive-mind or get the hell out.”

    So, by kicking you out of the group, they’ve shown their intolerance of free speech.
    That’s pretty disturbing.

    And, BTW Teresa: Very uncool of you to get personal and insulting when Britt in no way attacked anyone on any sort of personal level.
    Take a breather, come back later and re-read your post and I think you’ll see you could have handled that A LOT better.

    Special K’s last blog post..Part 1.5 Intro to da belly

  52. Dan April 3, 2008 11:27 am

    Wow…

    I mean, wow

    Your Mom’s group appear to be a bunch of psychopaths.

    And yes, I agree. This is exactly why sex offenders lists should not be public.

    I’ve said this elsewhere, but about 50% of people i work with are survivors of sexual abuse. And in 6 years of my job i have yet to meet someone who was abused by someone they didn’t know already. Look at your fathers, brothers, sisters and spouses before you look at the neighbors.

    Dan’s last blog post..Earwigging

  53. Sheila April 3, 2008 11:33 am

    I think we can all agree on a few things here : 1) The list is a great resource, IF you take the time to find out WHY a person is on it; 2) Teresa is a whiny bitch (seriously, she asked how many freakin’ play groups you go to?) and her and the other “mommy group” women are idiots (amongst other things); 3) the mommy wars are in full swing in Florida; and, 4) Britt was really in a mommy group?? Seriously??

    Regarding my #1 ~ I was guilty of the “lumping them all together” when I checked the list in my area and saw a guy who is a “friend of a friend” and is in our “group” that we hang out with. I didn’t bring my kids to a bbq they had, simply because the site didn’t list WHY he was on there…..turns out at 18, he had sex with a 16 year old. Her mom pressed charges and he’s on the list. Also, my bff’s exboyfriend had pretty much the same thing happen…the mom even tried to take everything back the day of his sentencing….sorry, he can’t get a job now and can hardly find a place to live.

    PS : Teresa, the petnames I have for my husband are retard, dumbass and bastard. Can’t you just feel the love?

    Sheila’s last blog post..A Nightmare on Elm Street?!

  54. Sheila April 3, 2008 11:37 am

    By the way, Teresa, if you even took the time to read the damned post, you’ll see that Britt WAS ADVOCATING EDUCATION regarding the list.

    Sheila’s last blog post..A Nightmare on Elm Street?!

  55. Linda~ April 3, 2008 11:42 am

    Holy Crap! That Teresa sure wants to make sure SHE gets credit for being the “ORIGINAL POSTER”! I think she’s looking for the attention and popularity now.

    Britt, you’re better off without those moms. Great post, love reading everything you put out there for us. Keep it up.

    Linda~

  56. Trishk April 3, 2008 11:44 am

    I think you are better off without this “group”.

    I agree with Dan. I also work with survivors. When you are looking at the offender on the registry you need to pay attention to the charge. Speaking strictly on the child predators. These children are not being molested by some stranger lurking around the school or the day care. They are being molested by the grandfather, friend of family, father, mother, and don’t even get me started on the teachers! More than likely it is someone they know.

    Trishk’s last blog post..Help Needed

  57. This Mom April 3, 2008 11:50 am

    Holy shit– can you imagine the fervent and frantic email conversations happening between these women right now?

    “Oh. Mah. GAWD. Did you read her latest post? Did you see what lies she is telling? I’d better go climb back in my Suburban and get juiced up on some Starbucks. I can hardly calm down enough to put some more mascara on and get ready for my Mommy & Me playgroup. Sheesh.”

    I find it quite amusing, because I’ve so been there and DONE THAT. It’s the curse of the mommy groups. They feed off each other, and no matter what you do– no matter where the group is from, they are ALL THE SAME. The mom that thinks outside the box will unfortunately find herself put outside the group.

    But to have the balls to criticize you on a personal level? That was low, girl.

    This Mom’s last blog post..Why Buy The Cow When You Can Get the Milk For Free?

  58. Finn April 3, 2008 11:57 am

    When I read the title of this post, I knew it was going to make me have an even bigger girl crush on you than I did before. Good on ya, darlin’ for speaking your mind.

    My husband is a cop and at one time one of his duties was to check up on the sex offenders in his. Many of the people on that list were there for things that a lot of people have mentioned here. Not too many of them were the people we’re all afraid of.

    That being said, the reason they’re periodically checked up on is that they aren’t always where they are supposed to be. And when they are, they are well aware they are being watched.

    For my money I’d be more wary of the schools my son attended, the summer camps, etc. Do they do thorough background checks? Your little ones are more vulnerable there than in their own neighborhood I’m willing to bet.

    And, for the record, the world is no more dangerous for children than it ever was. The difference is we have more information. FBI statistics on child kidnapping, etc. have remained steady for decades. We live in the information age, so we know more.

    One more thing: The best thing you can do for a child is to empower them. I was nearly molested as a nine-year-old, but I got away because I was uncomfortable with the man and left the situation before it escalated. I was not scared by it; it was what it was. Unfortunately we didn’t know enough then to talk about it so I never told anyone.

    I can’t believe you got kicked out of your group. Shit like this keeps me far away from those things. We can start our own group — Inappropriate Mommies, or Mommies Who Think.

    Finn’s last blog post..The Next Act

  59. Jen April 3, 2008 12:00 pm

    Holy crap - I go out for groceries and come back to a world of drama on Britt’s blog!

    In Canada, there is a National Sex Offender registry however the public does not have access to it. I’m on the fence if this is a good thing or not. Part of me doesn’t want to know if my neighbour is a registered sex offender. I just don’t want to know bad things though.

    We can’t assume that someone who is on an offender list is a child molester. It could be for whatever reason. It could be that they were falsely accused. Who knows.

    I think it’s very sad that your group, sorry, ex-group, of mommy’s can’t have a civil conversation about this topic. Ok, so they didn’t receive your email. Even if they had, I’m sure you would’ve written this blog entry anyway. For them to kick you out of the group is really fucking childish. Excuse the fuck out of you for expressing your opinion.

    Ya, you’re just such a bitch…. :heartbeat:
    Jen’s last blog post..What happens when Jen leaves her MacBook unattended!

  60. Just Me April 3, 2008 12:05 pm

    The new group could be named…..

    “REAL MOMMIES AND NOT PRETEND ONES”

    “MOMMIES WHO WANT THEIR KIDS TO BLOW BUBBLES NOT LIVE IN THEM”

    “MOMMIES WHO AREN’T AFRAID OF THE REAL WORLD AND EXPRESSING THEIR THOUGHTS ON IT”

    I could go on! Let’s have a contest…who can name the new mommy group! :)

  61. Renee April 3, 2008 12:16 pm

    Well let’s see..

    I’m enjoying reading the comments… Everyone is entitled to their opinions… but the context of the emails truly have been blown up!

    :wtf: We are not all idiots (let’s not prejudge)…

    :crazy: Mom’s group isn’t chatting about the topic, matter fact 20 of the 23 moms are oblivious to the blog or that Britt’s no longer a member.. :omg: ….fyi - There were only 3 people who typically read Britt’s blog (me being one, i’ll continue to read as it is very entertaining!!)…

    Anywhoooo we aren’t that shallow… Britt wasn’t removed because of her opinion… Don’t u guys think there is more to that??? :poke: Again, let’s not prejudge…or take the comments of ONE person as the reflection of everyone else in the group… Remember, we all have our opinions…

    Well i’m off for lunch (as I finish my starbucks(toffee nut latte is the BEST)), jump in my SUV and put on my MAC lipglass)..

    TOOTLES! :rock:
    Renee’s last blog post..Just love those little guys!

  62. This Mom April 3, 2008 12:24 pm

    So Britt… if it wasn’t because of this post– what reason did they give for removing you from the group?

    Renee says “Britt wasn’t removed because of her opinion”… so we’d all love to know– just why WAS she removed?

    Regardless of their reasons, we’re just to assume it’s all a coincidence that you were removed from the group the day you posted this?

    Renee… hun… we’re not all that stupid.

    This Mom’s last blog post..Why Buy The Cow When You Can Get the Milk For Free?

  63. NYCWD April 3, 2008 12:26 pm

    There are alot of problems with the sex offender registry. The list of offenses that it includes varies from state to state, and more often than not do not differentiate between molestation and rape versus a violation of statutory laws or something that may have extenuating circumstances. In New York, sex with a chicken also constitutes being a sex offender.

    I don’t think the list being public is a problem. I think it is actually good to have it public, but I think the problem is the people that it is made public to often overreact to it… just as people who hate hearing the voice of a differing opinion will overreact to a detailed and educated blog post of that opinion.

    I also have to agree with Dan about most molesters are people that are already known. As a mandatory reporter in NYC, I’ve filled out more reports involving people who shared a last name than not.

    I do have a few questions about this whole Mommy Group thing… do you have gang signs in it? Does the initiation involve running a gauntlet of people striking you with rattles? Do you drink your gin and juice out of a bottle with a nipple? Are you a registered gang with the Floridian Law Enforcement Agencies?

    If you would answer “no” to any of those questions… then I suggest ya’ll take a look at yourselves… ’cause your acting like a bunch of wannabe low life thugs.

    NYCWD’s last blog post..Stay On Target

  64. Linda~ April 3, 2008 12:30 pm

    To Renee

    If only three mommies are aware that Britt is out of the group, obviously it was not an unanimous decision. How very democratic of you all, I mean three.

    And if you’re not that “shallow” what makes you think we give a shit what you’re drinking and what you drive?

  65. Poppy April 3, 2008 12:35 pm

    Not everyone who commits a sex offense is listed in The Official Database of Bad People. Put that in your Mommy group pipe and smoke it. (Directed at your now EX-Mommy group.)

  66. Traci (Mommy's Group) April 3, 2008 12:43 pm

    Linda she was being sarcastic referring to This Mom’s comment. I was the one who removed her so let’s just clear this up instead of all this assuming. I don’t need to get everyone’s opinion when I remove someone from the group that isn’t the way it works. If you would go back and read the very beginning of this subject you will see that Britt said she is thinking of leaving the group. She hasn’t been actively involved in the group and since she obviously doesn’t want to be a part of it I removed her since she was going to end up removing herself anyway. This was the email I sent to her to clear everything up “You said you don’t feel like you fit in but you’ve never really
    made any attempts to be a part of the group and get to know any
    of us so now you won’t have to worry about it anymore. Best of
    luck to you”. There you go that was the email I sent to her. Happy everyone. None of you know any of us so its wrong for you to label us all and judge us. You all are doing to us what Britt claims we were doing to sex offenders. I don’t drive some big expensive SUV I wish I did. Once again I replied to defend myself and the other two Mom’s. I don’t agree with Teresa attacking Britt but that was out of my hands. Its wrong for you all to throw names at us and judge us when only 3 of us have replied to any of this. I hope you all see how childish and riculous you are all being. I have nothing against Britt and I wish her and her family the best.

  67. This Mom April 3, 2008 12:50 pm

    Traci - So basically it was like junior high relationship:

    “I’m gonna break up with her before she breaks up with me.”

    Yes, you’re right. You ARE mature. Oh, how wrong we were to think differently. (insert dripping amounts of mommy sarcasm here)

    But as the apparent “leader” of the group, I sure hope you make more of an effort to get people involved in your group than kicking their ass out with a jovial “Best of luck to you!”

    So is Teresa getting kicked out of the group too for saying something you don’t agree with, or just Britt? *smirk*

    This Mom’s last blog post..Why Buy The Cow When You Can Get the Milk For Free?

  68. Miss Britt April 3, 2008 12:51 pm

    pnbzmom: well, to be fair, I get links all the time along the lines “OMG YOU WILL NOT BELIEVE THIS SHIT - GO READ!” So I can understand them being here, I suppose.

    Marissa: I think we’ve become hyper aware. I also think our kids are SO exposed to “bad stuff” that they’ve gotten a higher tolerance of it.

    But that’s a post for another day. :wink:

    Sodapop: thanks babe. It’s nice to be reminded that I have shown some dedication to my family here, amidst the rants and venting and crap.

    Marissa: so it’s June I need to go to for an acid hit? Good to know!

    Hilly: dude, you can’t leave me. I’m like a magnet!

    Special K: I know it’s important to them that everyone feels like they “fit” together.

    Whatever works for you I guess.

    Dan: that’s a great point.

    Sheila: why is everyone so surprised I was in a Mommy group!?!?! Bastards!!!

    Linda~: thanks for the support love.

    Trishk: I know, and THAT is a truly terrifying thought.

    This Mom: I don’t understand WHY though. I mean, they’re made up of normal women too - aren’t they??

    Finn: has anyone told you today that you are brilliant?

    Because… you are. :hug:

    Jen: I think we’ve all learned a valuable lesson here:

    Order Your Groceries Online!

    Just Me: I just want a group that says “yeah, we’re moms. We’re also people, OK?”

    Renee: um, no, honestly, I didn’t think there was more to it than that. I mentioned to Traci that I wasn’t writing this post to call anyone a bad person - that I was trying to explain what made me uncomfortable about the whole issue and made me feel like I didn’t “fit”.

    5 seconds later I was “removed”.

    This Mom: I don’t want to know. Honestly. After reading some of the comments, I’m afraid to hear what other reasons could be given that my fragile ego couldn’t handle! LOL

    Clearly, it’s best for everyone.

    NYCWD: I agree - the list being public itself isn’t a problem. Hell, I checked it out IMMEDIATELY. And then I was kind of pissed because it makes it hard to determine who is on for what.

    As for the signs - I cannot tell you that. I don’t want to have to kill you.

    Linda~: I think she was making a joke. :wink:

    And really, it’s OK. Traci is very, very much in charge of the group and it wouldn’t work for me to still be a member.

    Poppy: woah!! There are pipes!?!? No one gave me a damn pipe!!!

    NOW I’m pissed…

    Traci: like you said, I didn’t fit.

  69. Sodapop April 3, 2008 12:52 pm

    I think Renee was being sarcastic about the Starbucks and car she drives comments.

    Now that we know the reason for being kicked out of the group, Traci I applaud you for coming here to defend yourself. I think it takes a lot to do that.

    Personally I didn’t attack the whole group, I only fussed at Teresa for her attack on Britt.

    I don’t know any of you so I can’t judge you, but I can say I disagree with a lot of what you say in these comments (in general - not just one person)

    And I just need to say I’m pretty sure more than just 3 people read this blog from the mommy group. Women are curious by nature and we seek drama where drama is available.

    Sodapop’s last blog post..Wash, rinse, repeat

  70. Linda~ April 3, 2008 12:56 pm

    To Traci,

    Yes, you cleared that up. YOU were the one to decide to remove Britt from the group because she was THINKING about it.

    I am not judging you, but this IS a place for our comments. A “Mommie Group” should be just that, a “Group”, not a dictatorship.

    Britt, this has been quite an interesting morning for me here at work. This has really made the time fly so far.

    Lot of Love,

    Linda~

  71. claudia hall christian April 3, 2008 12:56 pm

    I absolutely agree with you Britt. In fact, I could not agree with you more. As a specialist in treating severe trauma - yes, that means all the things you are afraid will happen - I can tell you that there is nothing more off base than believing that a STRANGER is going to hurt your children.

    Here’s some facts:

    Most kids are raped, molested and abused by people who know them and/or are related to them.

    Not everyone who is sexually abused is damaged by it. Really and truly. There’s only a very vocal yet small portion of the population that the abuse even means anything to them.

    In the most horrific cases, including my own, the children always say: “it was better than being at home.”

    Finally, it’s the lack of LOVE that damages people - not these events. If you love your kids enough, they will survive anything.

    If need be, I’ll go toe to toe - statistics, research, experience working with thousands of people, being one of the few (10) experts in this field, and my own personal life - with anyone who says that your opinion is wrong Britt.

    You are absolutely and completely correct.

    And your children are better for it.

    I’m standing on my chair applauding you.

  72. avitable April 3, 2008 12:57 pm

    Traci, that’s bullshit. She went to cookouts when she could and took the kids on outings with your group when she had the time. Unlike 90% of your “Working Moms” group, she actually works. (And not at a job that she quits after a few months because she can’t handle it).

    You’ve acted extremely immaturely and now you don’t like the things people are saying? I’m not talking about the group, I’m talking about you. I know you’re used to it, but here’s one time where you don’t get to play the victim.

  73. Traci (Mommy's Group) April 3, 2008 1:08 pm

    Excuse me Adam but who the hell are you to start making this personal with me. You have no clue about a lot of things and how dare you start shit with me because I quit. I’ve put up with bullshit for months and stuck it out and then your going to come on here and attack me you probably still have my email address if you have something to say to me then say it there don’t go attacking me in front of a bunch of strangers that don’t even know what the fuck is going on. I can’t believe how fucking immature you are. As for Britt coming to things if you want to know she’s come to 4 things since November. There were many more she was going to come to but she always canceled. I know she’s your friend and all but you have no right to go attacking me because I decide to quit my job. I gave her a weeks notice your acting like I up and left which isn’t the case. Grow the fuck up and mind your damn business.

  74. This Mom April 3, 2008 1:14 pm

    Avi - I see you’ve touched on a nerve.

    Britt - Apparently, the welcome package you received upon joining the group was missing the information about there being a quota for how many events you were required to attend. Darn it all to hell! There’s probably a spreadsheet and everything!

    Traci - I’m pretty sure you’re not going to get a sympathetic ear from anyone around this blog.

    This Mom’s last blog post..Why Buy The Cow When You Can Get the Milk For Free?

  75. Traci (Mommy's Group) April 3, 2008 1:22 pm

    This Mom I can careless. None of you know the whole story about anything so keep jumping to all your conclusions. I’m not going to have Adam attack me because I decide to not watch her kids anymore. That’s all I’m saying because this is just bullshit and immature. The way he’s acting you’d think he’s her husband and not Jared. Its just ridiculous. I’ve never quit a job before and been attacked so this is all new to me. I have better things to do with my life than to put up with bullshit from a guy that’s only met me once. Happy blogging to all of you.

  76. avitable April 3, 2008 1:25 pm

    Four things since November? So that’s one event a month? Seems like she was participating quite a bit.

    I guess she has to participate every weekend so that she can show she’s “committed” to the group.

    I’m not attacking you for quitting. I said you acted immaturely. I was talking about removing Britt from the group so arbitrarily.

    Exactly how many mommies in your “Working Moms” group are currently working? 1? 3?

    Maybe you should just change the name to “Baby Playtime” so you don’t attract actual working moms who want to find friends.

  77. turnbaby April 3, 2008 1:25 pm

    Sugar who would you ever want to be in a group with these people?

    And Traci–if you don’t want your business aired why are you here doing it?

    turnbaby’s last blog post..Half Nekkid Thursday Edition No. 3

  78. This Mom April 3, 2008 1:26 pm

    Traci, my dear. I don’t think I was jumping to conclusions. You removed her from the group for reasons that make no sense to the rest of us. You stated that loud and clear, hun.

    Pathetic.

    You and your group just lost a fabulous person.

    So Britt…whatcha gonna post about tomorrow? LOL

    This Mom’s last blog post..Why Buy The Cow When You Can Get the Milk For Free?

  79. abbersnail April 3, 2008 1:26 pm

    Amen! I lived in South Carolina during college, and the laws there are ridiculous when it comes to “sex offenses.”

    I think we spend so much time worrying about the “what ifs” that we stop using common sense. I really thing that about 85% of the ways we try to protect ourselves from life actually prevent us from living.

    But maybe I’m full of crap.

    abbersnail’s last blog post..CYOB

  80. Jen April 3, 2008 1:28 pm

    Britt - I almost spit out my Starbucks with your response! :lmao:
    Jen’s last blog post..Thankful Thursday

  81. Trishk April 3, 2008 1:30 pm

    Wow, Mommy Groups require mandatory attendance at events? I am very happy that such things weren’t around when I had small children. God knows, between working, military life, sick children I couldn’t keep up with the required attendance.

    Wow a whole week’s notice. I’m so impressed.

    Trishk’s last blog post..Help Needed

  82. TSM April 3, 2008 1:58 pm

    Oh can I have a turn?? ME ME ME!!!

    Holy canoles!

    I woke up to quite the maelstrom of activity here. Damn me for sleeping til ten.

    There is a general sense in online groups that, because someone is a fellow mom or a sufferer of fibromyalgia or whatever, that being in this group will mean they share the same opinions about everything. Notsomuch.

    And removing Britt because she was thinking of leaving? Effing juvenile to say the least. You were looking for a reason.

    Coming here to poke the bear? Also juvenile. Whatever image we all have of your mommy group calling and IM’ing each other saying “Can you BELEEEEVE?” and “Oh my GOSH I just heard!” is being fed by your presence here.

    I’m voting for “I want my kids to blow bubbles, not LIVE in one”. Can I join? Please please please??

  83. Kimberly April 3, 2008 2:18 pm

    Holy shit! You were in a cult??

    Kimberly’s last blog post..What Would Katie Do?

  84. Just Me April 3, 2008 2:21 pm

    Britt….I just have to say you rock! And you are very lucky to have a friend like Adam as well. I admire the relationship that you two have as friends and I in no way would ever think that he is more like your husband than Jared is because I would do anything to have a friend that would stand by me like he has.

    I believe that if Jared read this whole post and the comments that came with it….he would commend Adam for being the friend he is. Because the four of them (Britt and Jared and Adam and Mrs. Adam) have a relationship that some people wish they did….which makes me think that some of these “mommies” are those “some people.”

    So kudos to you, Adam, Britt, Jared, and Mrs. Adam!!!!

  85. Jer April 3, 2008 2:36 pm

    Holy CRAP on a cornflake! A few things here. Britt, I found you via Avitable and have never really commented before.

    A) I’m so glad I didn’t get busted pissing between 2 parked cars in Brooklyn after a party. Although it was only my girlfriend at the time who saw me. (WOOT let’s hear it for the LESBIANS! - who by the way are moms)

    B)With a “mommy group” like that, who the fuck needs enemies.

    C)I thought after people became parents they GREW UP and stopped acting like the demon spawn they birthed?

  86. maggie, dammit April 3, 2008 2:59 pm

    My word, girl. I am blown away.

    I stopped reading the comments after Teresa’s.

    What you did? What you said here? NOT A BIG DEAL. My guess is Teresa is projecting a lot of her own issues with not spending enough time with her own kids? How on earth does she know so much about your blog? And why on earth does she care so much?

    This mom’s group is exceeding every stereotype I have about mom’s groups.

    I’m shocked. I’m honestly shocked. So shocked I can barely string my words together.

    This group? Just did you a HUGE favor. In fact, I’d be embarrassed to belong to it. Not that they’d have me, what with me having to stop pushing the swing every two minutes to shoot up.

    You’re a good mom. You wrote a good post. You got kicked out of a frighteningly freakish group. It’s a good day!

    maggie, dammit’s last blog post..Ghost.

  87. Kyra Sutra April 3, 2008 3:06 pm

    I wonder if I’m eligible for the sex offenders list now that I flashed myself on the internet?

    There *could* be 15 year old boys out there this very minute whacking it… you never know!

    Kyra Sutra’s last blog post..Half Naked Thursday: Liberation

  88. Jen April 3, 2008 3:06 pm

    Traci - do you kiss the kids you babysit with that foul mouth of yours?

    Jen’s last blog post..Thankful Thursday

  89. Miss Britt April 3, 2008 3:12 pm

    Holy Crap.

    A girl goes to regroup for a few hours and the damn blog explodes!

    Whew.

    Well I was GOING to write a post tomorrow about the fact that all of you fuckers laughed at me for being in a mommy’s group! LOL But um… now I think I’ll just let things lie.

    And, FYI: I am not responsible for anything Adam says - on my blog or not. And quite frankly, I appreciate him standing up for me because he DOES know me.

    You don’t have to be someone’s husband to stick up for them.

    Now - I’m off to figure out whether or not I want to close this comment thread or not. I’ve never done it before, but - damn. The entire POINT of this post hasn’t gotten lost in some craaaaaazzzzzzzzy ass shit.

  90. Amy April 3, 2008 3:33 pm

    Teresa, talk about holier than though, why don’t you take your nasty, judgmental soccer mom ass out to the front lawn and police your neighborhood.

    Just think - while you wasted your time writing such completely ignorant bullshit - someone’s kid got raped and YOU could have stopped it. Start using your powers for something productive other than insulting people for clearly pointing out what a pathetic, cowardly, gossip-monger you actually are.

    Further more to all the mommy group members AND the cowardly babysitter who just put another MOM in a jam because apparently there wasn’t room in an ignorant backwood town for your type

    You women should have your asses kicked. Your kids are going to grow up to be sad little sheeple who leap on everything as if it is the end of the world because THAT is the example you are setting.

    Britt joined your sad little group because she didn’t know any other moms there and I can’t move to Florida. (God help you all if I did live there though) The sad fact is that Britt has more intelligence in her little finger than any of you do in your entire and collective bodies.

    Ever heard of the Freedom of Speech? Probably not because you’d prefer the women in your group all share the same opinion and if not, then you pathetic little bitches will bail on her and leave her high and dry (I’m specifically referring to the pathetic excuse for a babysitter here). Pretty pathetic ladies.

    Now, go put on your little white gloves and start the tea party. Be sure to talk about your health and the weather only - because apparently more than that only incites stupidity.

    You all owe Britt an apology. Mostly for being the pathetic excuses for human beings that you are, secondly for being ignorant, and third for being pathetically intimidated by a woman with more brains than you.

    Good going. You do our gender proud.

    Dipshit.

    Amy’s last blog post..Only Wednesday?

  91. The OTHER Miss Ann Thrope April 3, 2008 3:38 pm

    God help me, Jesus, I need to throw my two-cents worth in.

    This started out as a terrific post. I was reading it and thinking, “Oh my Gosh! I totally agree with her!”

    The comments were awfully interesting in the beginning too.

    But holy batfuck, Batman, how did it degenerate so quickly?

    You want my humble opinion? And I’ve lived 43 years and raised 2 awesome girls so I have the right to have one….

    You’re all being big fat whiny babies.

    Mom’s Group? All 2, 3, 4 or 23 of you? Grow the fuck up. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. You are all full of suck.

    Everyone else? “Hello pot? This is the kettle. You’re black.”

    Britt has done an excellent job of defending herself, her opinions, and her Mommi-ness on here. It’s commendable that you all love her and want to protect her. But you’re all doing the very thing she wrote her blog post about. You’re all over-reacting. Remember when we said everyone had a right to their opinion?

    Theresa was wrong to bring it to a personal level. Anyone who did the same thing after that was ALSO wrong.

    Britt? You’re so adorable. Of course everyone wants to defend you. But personally? My money is on you, girl. I think you can kick ass and take you OWN names.

    The OTHER Miss Ann Thrope’s last blog post..